09 February 2008

Blue Poppies: Love them or Love them?


My love affair with the elusive blue poppy began about ten years ago, when I first started seeing them regularly in gardening magazines. One magazine featured the graceful flowers on the cover, and I think I still have it here, buried somewhere in the piles of magazines that live in my storage office. How could anything be that blue and be a flower? I just knew that one day, I’d have to try my hand at growing them.

Well, as many of you know…I do okay with them. There have been challenges, that’s for sure, as I wrote in the incredible tale of woe to do with ducks and blue poppies. But this post isn’t so much about my own experiences with them as an information piece for others. I’m not an expert. The genus IS quite complex. But I’ll share what I’ve learned, and hope it helps others determine whether or not they can grow these marvelous, seductive bloomers.

The genus Meconopsis is in the family Papaveraceae, but the plants we refer to as blue poppies aren’t actually poppies at all (poppies being Papaver genus, where there are no true-blue flowers). Now, we can go into all the botany, but I sense eyes glazing over, so instead I’ll refer you to the Meconopsis website where you can learn more about the differences between Papaver, Meconopsis and other members of the same family.


Not all Meconopsis are blue, either. M. cambrica, which I’ve never grown, is yellow-flowered; several have lavender to purple blossoms, others come in red, rose, yellow or white, and even the blues come in a variety of hues. I’ve had M. b. ‘Hensol Violet’ before, but it apparently didn’t like growing for us because it didn’t return. Or perhaps it was monocarpic. More botany coming along now, so deep breath, and look at this lovely flower before we proceed. Ready?


Monocarpic plants flower only once in their lifetime, though they may live for a few years before they get around to flowering (and dying). Some have evergreen foliage, others are deciduous, and most of the monocarpic species aren’t usually seen for sale, at least around here. That being said…the perennial forms do sometimes behave in a monocarpic way. I sometimes think that these plants are related to cats, and do things just because they can. With the perennial forms, some set seed, and others are sterile. And sometimes if pollination is off, even the fertile types don’t set good seed. Whew! Are we confused yet? Let’s look at another flower….

Don’t worry, there’s not a test…but are you seeing why the genus is at once loved at the same time as many gardeners are intimidated by them? It’s a confusing group of plants, but we love them in spite of their moodiness. Just as we love certain naughty, moody felines.

Experts estimate the number of species of Meconopsis as between 40 and 50, but most of what we find in nurseries are interspecies hybrids. And we all know how much information many labels give, and how plants can get mislabeled. Often M. betonicifolia is labeled as M. grandis, maybe because it’s easier to spell and say ‘grandis.’ For the most part, the species and named hybrids we DO see in these parts are:
M. betonicifolia
M. grandis
M. nepaulensis
(monocarpic, with red or yellow flowers rather than blue)
M. X sheldonii
M. ‘Lingholm’
M. simplicifolia
M. ‘Hensol Violet’

The reason that Meconopsis do reasonably well for me here is that foggy, wet, cool, (although sometimes annoyingly windy) climate of ours suits them well. They don’t like heat, either when they’re germinating or when they’re growing. Most of ours are situated in the shade bed near, believe it or not, a line of spruce trees. They don’t get much sun, and they’re in a spot that’s a bit higher than much of the bed, because while they’lll take cold, they resent having their crowns get too wet. Meconopsis has a reputation for being a heavy feeder, and each spring the area where ours are gets a good dose of seaweed fertilizer, some composted manure, and some mushroom compost from an organic producer. In late fall, I throw a few evergreen boughs over them, or some hay, to catch and hold the snow and also to prevent the freeze-thaw cycles.

I haven’t grown any from seed for a few years, ever since the great duck fiasco. Although I grew mine indoors (in our not too hot living room) the best way to grow them is to wintersow them, so I’m REALLY cheering on Kylee and hope she has great germination and growth in her plants. And since I’m about to wintersow some seeds myself, I might succumb to the urge to plant a package of Meconopsis too. The best success comes with fresh seed, so hopefully if seed has been foil packaged and stored properly, it will be viable. But with these little monsters, you can seed 500 cells, get maybe 200 seedlings…and have 25 or so survive. They are just crotchety! One valuable tip is to grow the young seedlings on in a coldframe for a year rather than plant them out when they’re tiny, flimsy things.

We currently have about eight plants, most with multiple sections to their crowns. I don’t keep track of losses, but I do usually tuck another plant in each year—if I can find ‘Hensol Violet’ again this year, I’ll try it again.

The problem is, some nurseries have almost as much challenge with keeping the plants looking good as some gardeners do. The best plants I’ve seen were at Bayport, (because Dick Steele could grow anything anywhere, including the Antarctic or a desert) and at another nursery on the south shore that had a nice shady lath house for its shade-loving plants. We’re a long way from having the waves of blue flowers that you see in some places, such as in Les Jardins de Metis in Reford, Quebec…but we’re a work in progress.

If your climate is hot and muggy, or hot and dry…you’re probably out of luck with these remarkable plants. But if there’s a nursery nearby selling them, and they’re not too expensive, and you can give them a cool, shady site with ample moisture and organic matter…well, what the heck, give it a try. They can surprise you…and the efforts are definitely worth it!

34 comments:

Ewa said...

owwww.. you know I love them a lot... I a totally in love... I am still trying to germinate them - no success yet.
...cold frame you say and zillions .... hmmm..

TopVeg said...

This is such an informative post - makes me want to put in an order now for blue poppies. I cannot grow poppies although I have often tried. I find Foxgloves much easier, so I wonder if it is our climate.

Frances said...

Thank you for that Ms. Jodi. Did I mention you are an excellent teacher, here's an apple for your desk. Do you want me to clap the blackboard erasers for you? Way to present a lot of scientific info in an enjoyable manner. We'll never be able to grow these beauties, but keep us happy with constant photos please.

Frances at Faire Garden

Mary said...

These are absolutely the most beautiful flowers! I can see why everyone wants to rush out and get one. I live in southern Indiana, and I'm sure our "hot muggy" summer would kill it for sure....even in a heavily shaded spot. Sigh. However, I'd be tempted to try one anyway :-)

Lisa at Greenbow said...

What is not to love here except the fact that I can't grow them. Boo hooo. I remember these as one of the first flowers that I couldn't get to grow. I felt like such a failure. I was quite young in age as well as in being an even younger gardener. After all back in the 70's I bought _The Color Dictionary of Flowers and Plants for Home and Garden_ by Roy Hay and Patrick Synge. I thought I should be able to grow anything pictured in that book. Ha... I have come a long way from that beginning. Every time you mention your blue poppies though I think about this.

I have seen some lovely delphiniums that have this blue color. I saw them in a garden in Ann Arbor, MI. I haven't been able to successfully grow delphiniums either.

So I guess I will just have to go through life admiring the bluest of the blues from afar. Sigh~~

Katarina i Kullavik said...

This is one of my favourite flowers - I fell in lov a couple of years ago when I spotted the unusuallt blue flowers in the botanical garden of Göteborg, Sweden, where I live. I tried to germinate them, and I actually got some plants. But either the slugs ate them or they simply disappeared... Having read your informative post today, I feel encouraged to try again.Thanks! I really like your blog!
/Katarina

joey said...

I'm 'green' with envy over your blue popies, jodi! Great informative post with lovely photos. I must give them a try.

Rhondi said...

I love those blue poppies! Blue is my favorite color and I love all blue flowers. I haven't tried to grow those although I've drooled over them in catalogues! Maybe I better check it out and see if we can grow them here in North Carolina. You've got me inspired to try it. From a fellow gardener, and Canadian now living in the US and enjoying the mlid winters:) Rhondi

Layanee said...

Jodi: Great post on Meconopsis! Haven't tried them as it is a bit humid here but perhaps...no, I'm just going to enjoy yours! Great photos and I did see a blue one in person once and was very surprised by its' height! I had pictured a short plant! Catching up on posts after being away for a week. I missed all my blogging friends!

kate said...

Those are such beautiful flowers.

It seems to take Blotanical.com a few hours sometimes to add recent blog posts to the feed. We're only two hours behind you, btw.

No Rain said...

I love blue flowers, and these are BLUE! When I enlarge the photos, the detail is so good that the Meconopsis petal almost looks like crepe paper. Great post.
Aiyana

shirl said...

Hi again, Jodi :-)

Not sure if my comment went through earlier or not. Just wanted to say that I too share your passion for the meconopsis :-D

Great post with lots of info that will inspire others. I am very lucky that I too have them grow happily in my garden. They are my favourite flower and May is my favourite month - when they are in flower! I have photos on my plantphotos blog if you want to see them at http://plantphotos.shirlsgardenwatch.co.uk/2007/05/meconopsis-magic.html :-D

Ewa said...

Dear Jodi, I just noticed that some of your settings have changed and you sindicate full posts - which I just received to my mail box.
Or you made it deliberately?
I just remembered the discussion about protecting the content.
Greetings,
Ewa

Sue Swift said...

I'd love to grow blue poppies, but with a balcony where the temperature can reach 50°C, I don't think I'll bother ...

Remember I told you you'd been nominated for the Garden Bloggers' Carnival? The link is up today.

Sue

Meg said...

I looove blue poppies. We're thinking of giving them a try, and your info is definitely helpful--thanks!

Mr. McGregor's Daughter said...

I'm not a "cat person," nor am I willing to put up with fussy plants. That's just as well, because there's no way a Meconopsis would survive a hot, humid Midwestern summer. I'll just enjoy the pics of them that you post. (It's hell to be practical.)

Robin's Nesting Place said...

Those are great pictures of a lovely flowers. I love that color of blue!

Pam/Digging said...

Those are so blue they look as if they have been dyed. I guess this is one I can't grow, as it's hot and humid AND droughty in the summer in Austin. I'm glad I can enjoy it in your garden, thanks to blogging.

Annie in Austin said...

You do teach us well, Jodi! The first time I heard of the Blue Poppy, the words "but it won't grow here" was part of the description - guess I admired them in photos but never tried to find out anything about them. You make me want to see one for real.

Annie at the Transplantable Rose

jodi said...

Good to hear from you all...we all have plants that we covet (I wish I could grow camillas, and at the moment I can't even spell them!) but usually we have something we can compensate with. I know some of you can't grow delphinium but can grow larkspur...I don't know what to suggest in lieu of Meconopsis, though.

jodi said...

Ewa...I turned my feed to full just as an experiment for this one post...it's gone back to the shortened version now. More information coming on that website that was scraping, too; it's back up but now calling itself a feed aggregator. As far as we know, what it's doing now is mostly legal...but stay tuned for more info.

Jan said...

I would love to be able to grow these gorgeous blue flowers, but living in the Gulf South makes that impossible. Your pictures of them are beautiful

Jan Always Growing

Silvia said...

Wow--those really are beautiful flowers! Unfortunately, I think our climate qualifies alternately as hot and muggy and hot and dry. :( I'll just have to enjoy your photos. :)

Nancy J. Bond said...

Those poppies are stunning in their "blueness". No wonder you love them so. :)

Rosehaven Cottage said...

Oh dear... you're tempting me with the blue flowers again. And a blue flower I CAN'T have. Oh the dilemma! I'm such a sucker for true blue flowers that I am even tempted to try and make a go of the blue poppy. But then I realize it would be cruel to both the poor poppy and myself if I try to get it to grow here where heat it overpowering in the summer. Oh well... I guess I'll have to just enjoy your photos. :D

Cindy at Rosehaven Cottage

Sharon said...

Hi Jodi:
I really enjoyed the post on Meconopsis....makes me think I should nab a few seeds from the Rhodie store and see if they will perform. I have always had difficulty getting the seedlings past about 4 leaves.
Cheers

Kerri said...

Jodi, thanks for this informative post. Who knew a blue poppy is not really a poppy? I didn't, but I do now :)
I too am in love with blue flowers but I'm not sure this one would like a NY summer. If I ever come across the seeds or plants though, I might give it a try.

Yolanda Elizabet said...

Thanks for all the lovely pics and information Jodi. I know that many gardeners covet this plant and why not, it is one of the very few that give true blue flowers. It's not for me though as it is far too wet in winter here and the plants would simply rot away. I have seen Dutch gardeners grow it though but they treat it as an alpine plant and give it overhead shelter during most of the year.

Mark said...

I Love this plant for it's beautiful colour, but have never had much joy growing it.I did once have a red/purple one that was a bit different.

Cheers Mark

Kylee said...

This is such a great post, Jodi, I'm printing it out so I can refer to it again and again.
My seeds didn't come in a foil packet, but I did notice they were packaged in a glassine envelope inside the packet envelope, unlike the other seeds from the same place. I'm going to order some more seeds from different places and try some more. Also I'm saving some back for direct sowing when it warms up a bit. It's very cool in our basement, so I might even try some inside down there, too.
Can you tell I'm determined? :-)

Barbara said...

I saw this exciting blue meconopsis for the first time when we visited Scotland last May. This extraordinary blue...I felt in love with it immediately. I know it is not a plant for our climate here (you cannot buy this plant in our country), but I recently saw seeds at Thompson & Morgan (but rather expensive) and now I have to think about it whether I shall have a go or not (this would be a sort of inside gardening!). But this special blue makes me go mad.....;-) !!

Jean said...

I just love all meconopsis, and we grow them well here in the south of New Zealand. I am fortuneate to have a shady part in my garden where they are very happy.
I have also grown them from seed, Lingholm and Horridula quite successfully.
Your photos are just lovely, I feel sorry for people who are unable to grow them, but then we are all envious of what other gardeners can grow in their conditions. Would be boring if we all were successful with the same things

Dee/reddirtramblings said...

The color makes them hard to believe they are real. Thanks for the education on them. Yours are as close as I will ever get to growing them (unless I move to Canada. LOL.) It is way too hot, humid, horrid (pick your "H") here. But that's what makes it interesting.~~Dee

David said...

Hi Jodi -

If I had a cottage-style garden these would be on my list! Great plants! Thanks for the interesting write up!

David.

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